Watch Kendrick Lamar & Kobe Bryant Talk About Greatness

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In their respective fields, Kendrick Lamar and Kobe Bryant are considered greats at their craft. Also, they are Los Angeles icons, both of whom have partnerships with Nike, so there’s a lot in common.

The Swoosh endorsees sat down together for a joint interview over the weekend at ComplexCon in Long Beach, Calif., where they discussed… well, greatness.

Kendrick opened the dialog, talking about his transformation from the hungry mixtape-making K.Dot to the 2017 artist we see today, aka Kung Fu Kenny.

“There’s definitely a big difference,” he explained. “K-Dot was me prepping myself with lyrical ability and being able to go in the studio and say, ‘I want to be the best wordsmith. Anybody that gets on this track, I have to annihilate whether it’s through metaphors, punchlines, or wordplay.’ I didn’t have the actual technique of songwriting. This is the transition to Kendrick Lamar/Kung Fu Kenny. I look at Kung Fu Kenny as a master of the craft. Now you have the ability to make songs and still have the wordsmith technique and intertwine it and have a composed mentality on how to approach music.”

Despite reaching the level of success he has, Kendrick still has some hurdles. “More time in a day to do more,” he explained. “At the level I’m at on the music level, it’s opened up so many different avenues as far as business but I always want to keep the music first. This is a challenge that I’m seeing, that’s happening right now today. Keeping the music 100 percent first and not being stagnant in other ideas and other creatives that I have to offer the world.”

As for Kobe, he compared his playing days to Kendrick’s rapping style. “It’s the same hunger,” he said. “You step out there on the court, you’re taking heads off. I don’t want to hear Michael’s the best player in the world. I don’t want to hear they call him Black Jesus. I don’t want to hear it. You’re gonna have to show me.”

Watch the full interview above.