Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan

Kobe Bryant recently revealed the top five players he’s ever faced in his career… one of which surprised many.

In a conference call this week, set up by the NBA with international reporters, Kobe named: Hakeem Olajuwon, Michael Jordan, Kevin Durant, LeBron James and … Clyde Drexler?

Kobe admitted that narrowing the list to five was difficult.

“I came in the league when there were still so many great players playing — John Stockton was still playing, Clyde Drexler was still playing, Gary Payton, Anfernee Hardaway,” he said, according to the LA Times. “Top five players is a little tough for me.”

As for the top five teams he played against, he named were Sacramento in the early 2000s, Boston in 2008, Detroit in 2004, Chicago when he entered the league in 1996, and San Antonio almost any year.